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== Before You Proceed == | == Before You Proceed == | ||
Before you tear apart your unit, it would be wise to verify that the hard drive has failed. If your unit displays a message saying "Your Internet terminal is connecting to WebTV to check for the latest update.", it most likely means the internal hard drive has failed. | Before you tear apart your unit, it would be wise to verify that the hard drive has failed. If your unit displays a message saying "Your Internet terminal is connecting to WebTV to check for the latest update.", it most likely means the internal hard drive has failed. As mentioned on [[Backing Up WebTV (MSN TV) Hard Drives]], you should always unplug the WebTV/MSN TV unit when unplugging the hard drive, as otherwise you risk blowing some fuses that are difficult to replace. | ||
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== Choosing a Replacement Storage Medium == | == Choosing a Replacement Storage Medium == | ||
WebTV/MSN TV hard drives use an IDE connector to deliver data and a | WebTV/MSN TV hard drives use an IDE connector to deliver data and a Molex cable for power. This gives you a few choices for your replacement, ranging from least to most costly. | ||
* Your own IDE hard drive | * Your own IDE hard drive | ||
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* CompactFlash to IDE converter | * CompactFlash to IDE converter | ||
If you have any of the devices listed above, you can install it into your unit in place of the original hard drive | If you have any of the devices listed above, you can install it into your unit in place of the original hard drive. If the service you connect to offers flashrom downloads, your unit will download the upgrade and appropriately partition the installed storage medium, if supported. If you are able to back up your original hard drive, you can also write that image to the new drive. Hard drive support tends to be hit or miss, so it is recommended that you check the "Tested Devices" list below. | ||
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Before purchasing any items, old IDE hard drives are prone to failure, and Compact Flash cards can be expensive depending on the capacity and speed. | Before purchasing any items, note that old IDE hard drives are prone to failure, and Compact Flash cards can be expensive depending on the capacity and speed. | ||
== Conversion Technology == | == Conversion Technology == | ||
As mentioned before, WebTV/MSN TV units only supports IDE hard drives for storing data. It's possible to buy converters to allow usage of more modern storage formats. Below is a list of tested converters. | |||
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| StarTech || IDE2CF || CF to IDE || Set jumper JP2 to position "1-2", needs floppy to | | StarTech || IDE2CF || CF to IDE || Set jumper JP2 to position "1-2", needs floppy to Molex power cable || Yes | ||
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| Generic (Amazon.com) || ??? || SD to IDE || WebTV OS loads slow, MPEG video choppy || Yes | | Generic (Amazon.com) || ??? || SD to IDE || WebTV OS loads slow, MPEG video choppy || Yes | ||
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| Generic (Amazon.com) || ??? || CF to IDE || Mounts in vertical position, too tall to fit inside unit, needs floppy to | | Generic (Amazon.com) || ??? || CF to IDE || Mounts in vertical position, too tall to fit inside unit, needs floppy to Molex power cable || No | ||
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| Generic (Amazon.com) || ??? || SATA to IDE || Box does not attempt to boot whatsoever, does not power on || No | | Generic (Amazon.com) || ??? || SATA to IDE || Box does not attempt to boot whatsoever, does not power on || No | ||
Latest revision as of 00:49, 16 September 2025
If the hard drive in your WebTV/MSN TV box has failed for any reason (which is a concern 20+ years after manufacture), or you're replacing the hard drive as a form of preventative maintenance, this article goes in depth on helping you choose the correct hardware. Lists of known compatible hardware is given.
Before You Proceed
Before you tear apart your unit, it would be wise to verify that the hard drive has failed. If your unit displays a message saying "Your Internet terminal is connecting to WebTV to check for the latest update.", it most likely means the internal hard drive has failed. As mentioned on Backing Up WebTV (MSN TV) Hard Drives, you should always unplug the WebTV/MSN TV unit when unplugging the hard drive, as otherwise you risk blowing some fuses that are difficult to replace.
Minibrowser on LC2 (Old Plus)
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Choosing a Replacement Storage Medium
WebTV/MSN TV hard drives use an IDE connector to deliver data and a Molex cable for power. This gives you a few choices for your replacement, ranging from least to most costly.
- Your own IDE hard drive
- SD to IDE converter
- CompactFlash to IDE converter
If you have any of the devices listed above, you can install it into your unit in place of the original hard drive. If the service you connect to offers flashrom downloads, your unit will download the upgrade and appropriately partition the installed storage medium, if supported. If you are able to back up your original hard drive, you can also write that image to the new drive. Hard drive support tends to be hit or miss, so it is recommended that you check the "Tested Devices" list below.
| Manufacturer | Model | Capacity | Type | Notes | Supported |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Seagate | ST31012A | 1.1GB | Hard Drive | Stock drive | Yes |
| Seagate | ST31013A | 1.1GB | Hard Drive | Stock drive, used later in production | Yes |
| Seagate | ST38630A | 8.6GB | Hard Drive | Stock drive, used in EchoStar Dishplayer 7100 | Yes |
| Western Digital | WD80EB-28CGH2 | 8GB | Hard Drive | Box kicked to minibrowser | No |
| SanDisk | Extreme 60MB/s | 32GB | Compact Flash | WebTV OS loads slow, MPEG video choppy | Yes |
Before purchasing any items, note that old IDE hard drives are prone to failure, and Compact Flash cards can be expensive depending on the capacity and speed.
Conversion Technology
As mentioned before, WebTV/MSN TV units only supports IDE hard drives for storing data. It's possible to buy converters to allow usage of more modern storage formats. Below is a list of tested converters.
| Manufacturer | Model | Type | Notes | Supported |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| StarTech | IDE2CF | CF to IDE | Set jumper JP2 to position "1-2", needs floppy to Molex power cable | Yes |
| Generic (Amazon.com) | ??? | SD to IDE | WebTV OS loads slow, MPEG video choppy | Yes |
| Generic (Amazon.com) | ??? | CF to IDE | Mounts in vertical position, too tall to fit inside unit, needs floppy to Molex power cable | No |
| Generic (Amazon.com) | ??? | SATA to IDE | Box does not attempt to boot whatsoever, does not power on | No |
Final Notes
Before installing any devices, check that the device's "master" jumper position is set, otherwise your unit will not boot off your storage medium. Make sure to take care when mounting a new storage device inside of the box, as it could come in contact with the case or motherboard of your unit and cause permanent damage. You can avoid damage by attaching a non-conductive flat item to the bottom, such as a thin sheet of bubble wrap, cardboard, or anti-static material. No appropriate mounting devices exist for most solutions, but regular IDE hard drives can reuse the original unit's hard drive bracket.